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Should Florida State Have Had One More Play Against Miami?
Written by Bob Biscigliano   
Monday, 07 September 2009 23:02

First of all, what a great first weekend of college football.  Michigan and Michigan State both won handily and there were some doozies, capped off by Labor Day's finale between Miami and No. 18 Florida State.

What a freaking game.  Miami recovered from a 24-13 deficit and scored 21 4th quarter points to knock off the ranked Seminoles.  It didn't end without the obligatory Labor Day dramatics, though.

Florida State marched down the field with 1:53 left on the clock to put themselves at Miami's 2-yard line and in a great position to score the game winning touchdown.  After three failed plays, Miami was called for a HUGE pass interference penalty (that ESPN announcers downplayed big time) that would give FSU four more cracks at the end zone --  time permitting, of course.  Time actually allowed for three cracks at the end zone, but should there have been a fourth down chance to score for Florida State?  As I watched the final replay, after the referees said the call on the field was confirmed (incomplete pass) and the time had expired, I couldn't help but wonder if the ball was actually on the ground before that final tick ran off.  Here's the screen shot I captured:

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What do you think?  Is the ball on the ground at this point?  If so, there should be one final play according to the clock.

I want to believe it's a home clock job gone bad, but after watching it over and over again that final second seemed awfully long as it was.  Also, if you remember after the 2001 game between Michigan/Michigan State, the NCAA now keeps the official time.  Therefore, it's not an issue of what the FSU clock-keepers did or did not do.  Either way, perhaps the NCAA official time keepers failed on this one and in doing so we have another "Clockgate" controversy on our hands between in-state rivals.


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Unfortunately Not
written by Shotgun_Spratling, September 08, 2009
Even though I root for Florida State, I have to say I don't think there should have been any time left. Even though there was probably two seconds when the ball hit the receiver, there is a natural delay in the ref blowing the whistle and also in the clock being stopped.

It should have been caught anyways, and this point would never even have to be brought up.
ESPN not official clock
written by PaulMSR, September 08, 2009
One thing you have to think about is the ESPN clock on the screen is not the official game clock. There have been many instances where TV clocks continue to run, stop short or freeze and aren't synced up with the official clock. It could of happened that this was an instance where they were just off.

I will say thou I wondered the same thing myself watching the replays this morning.
They probably never thought to look
written by Wine Clubs, September 08, 2009
I doubt the refs even bothered to look at the clock, I'm sure they were looking to see if it were a catch....can they even review a timing judgment call like that?
Just look at the last five minutes (or less)....
written by Tim T, September 08, 2009
If you replay the last 5 minutes of the game, does the clock always start accurately when the ball is snapped? Is there lag? Should there really be 1 second left on the clock? The answer, if you actually do this, will be no.
4th down?
written by D_T, September 08, 2009
The last play of the game was fourth down, unless if I'm mistaken?
...
written by Hank, September 08, 2009
@D_T You're mistaken. It was 3rd down.

@Tim The only time when the clock actually matters is when teams are playing against it. At that point, it should be handled with care and be as accurate as technologically possible.
...
written by dkp, September 09, 2009
When the ball hit the ground the play was over and the clock should have stopped. There was one second showing on the clock when the ball hit the ground and still 1 second showing when the player rolled over verifying it was an incomplete pass. This was a 3rd down play so after the play there was 1 second left for Florida State to run or pass a 4th down play.
Maybe
written by Seminole, September 11, 2009
@Wine Clubs: the refs on the field aren't responsible for determining when the game is over.

As Paul pointed out, the clock you see on TV isn't the official clock. So, it is possible that time had really expired.

I think FSU should have had one more play, but I'm not too upset about it because FSU had plenty of opportunities at the end to score.

I'm more upset about the play calling...4 passes in a row? I understand that clock management is vital, but why not pitch it to a RB and tell him to throw it away if he's not going to score (or throw it to a WR), or have Ponder run a bootleg option.

FSU didn't even fake a run. Miami was prepared for the pass, and covered it well.

I don't blame the NCAA, I blame Fortson (the WR who dropped the last pass, as well as a possible TD in the first quarter) and the coaches. I feel bad for Ponder, he played an amazing game.

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